it kind of snowballed that was kind of the game changer in the competition between she and president obama. how important would it be to get immigration reform done and then set the table for her to take on another big issue in this country? which of course could be health care, which of course could be women's rights. >> absolutely. and the health care plan we have right now is a lot closer to the one she proposed during the campaign because barack obama was against the individual mandate and she was for it. but yeah, on immigration, if immigration reform were to get done, i think republicans are even starting to realize this, it would redound mostly to the benefit of democrats. latinos are trending toward the democratic party on most issues. i think it would help republicans only marginally and democrats a lot more. it would get that issue off the table. if she were to run, which a lot of people think she will, i think she will, she is going to have a lot of successes in the previous administration to kind of push off and run. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you. >